Seriously, i have heard people shout so often recently that they wish there were more real heroes in this game. i want to make a a good clear list of what denotes a 'REAL HERO' and a 'REAL HEROINE'. if some one would be wiilling to help i'd be greatful......and i swear if one of this things for the Heroine is getting tied up in her own lasso i will drag this off to volcano and let loose.



so yea - lets be constructive and get a list going.......i'll update this top post as we compile a list but this is mostly so people will know what constitutes a 'real' hero so we dont run into all of those 'cyber mercs' or 'another super soldier'.

Blue Bruiser

Heroes like Spider-man,

Heroes that don't change their look every 5 minutes

Heroes with a dark past pebbled with acts of good and kindness that contributed to who they are today

Heroes who rise to a challenge no matter the implications if the cause is just

Heroes who stand by their enemies and rivals if they are in the right

Heroes who put themselves in the way of a danger nonthreatening to them, but to others

Heroes who go out of their way to help (In the community too, help on Zonechat people >:C)

Heroes named Blue Bruiser

Heroes that have no 401k because they spent it fighting crime

Heroes name Blue Bruiser

Six-Pac: real hero.

A hero understands that the ends NEVER justify the means.

My heroes:
Justice Alito
Justice Roberts
Justice Stevens
Justice Thomas
Justice Scalia
Justice Ginsberg
Former Justice O'Connor

"A hero is just a man who knows he is free."
-The Protomen

To be honest, I think a hero is measured most often by humility. Being a hero isn't something somebody calls themselves.

When you think of heroes, look less to comics, and more to the real world. Police, army, fire-fighters.

The truth? Most people have their own definition of 'REAL HERO', and it most often comes out when they don't see enough of it. For me, I'd have to go into a deep, philosophical debate about a real hero. For someone else, tights and a cape would be a real hero. For someone else, it's somebody who does only good. For someone else, it's a guy with a power chin.

#2159608 @redaqua wrote:

A hero understands that the ends NEVER justify the means.

My heroes:
Justice Alito
Justice Roberts
Justice Stevens
Justice Thomas
Justice Scalia
Justice Ginsberg
Former Justice O'Connor

Funny I always figured voting to give corporations human rights would be Lex Luthor move...

Lex Luthor is my hero. HUMAN EMPOWERMENT! GET THE ALIEN! GET'EM!


-So very kidding.

Hopefully you see this is a "fun" answer:

I think Superman would say, that he isn't a hero. That the real heroes are those who stand up for what is right, despite the fact that they are powerless.

It's easy to be righteous when you are invulnerable and can lift a tractor over your head. But when you are nearly destitute, struggling to put food on the table - and you still do the right thing. That's a hero.

Our characters are just powerful brand names using violence to enforce laws. Most real heroes out there don't draw attention to themselves with capes, boots and shiny logos.

Our characters are out there to protect the real heroes, to defend them. We get the glory, but the real heroics are done in the day-to-day drudgery called life.

#2159977 Hunter wrote:

Lex Luthor is my hero. HUMAN EMPOWERMENT! GET THE ALIEN! GET'EM!


-So very kidding.

I seriously love Luthor, because he keeps jumping from "I am making the world a utopia with science" to "I am curing my sister's cancer then uncuring it just to show I can, screw you, sis!" so fast.

Anyway, on topic, I think a hero has to be 'human' at a core, that's why I never liked Superman, he didn't have a lot to fear, he didn't have that many real threats, very few things really scared him.

A hero has to have flaws, and he has to actually face those flaws, he has to fight his inner demons and issues and overcome them to do what he does.

Heroes have to be someone who can inspire others, who can make even the lowest people think 'hey there is hope for me', heck if I can let my socialist roots show a bit Red Son Superman was far more of a hero then the real Superman ever will be, he inspired the workers and all, he gave them somethign to believe in in dark times, and he'd rather see himself fall then allow the people he is protecting fall, but at the same time he saw the flaws in what he fought for, he saw that there were problems no matter what.

The 'real' Superman fights for 'truth, justice, and the American way' no matter what, there are no flaws in this for him, it's some almost holy creed, but Red Son realized that there were flaws in what he believed in, but still held them dear. It's important for a hero to never idolize what he fights for, but rather hope that someday it can be made better from his work.

SHotgun is absolutely right,

And in Red Son, Luthor is quite the humanist/capitalist hero. In the end, both of them are pretty heroic in different ways.

Yea Luthor is less some Ayn Rand worshiping sociopath and more just 'hey I'm a capitalist but I have basic freaking morals', and in that he actually becomes a great character.

Pretty much Red Son is better then 'normal' Supes in every way and should be the canon one and not the crapfest that is Superman now.

A hero has to have flaws, and he has to actually face those flaws.

Bingo! This is why Boo Radley is 100 times the hero than a lot of comic book characters, who are really just extensions of boyish fantasies about power and ego.

This is why, in the end, the Joker becomes more interesting than Batman. The Batman is, if you look a little closer just a fascist symbol of wealth and private power. He protects his asset (Gotham), which he owns almost entirely.

The Joker reminds us, such characters are as self-serving as the rest of us. And that such consolidation of power and wealth in one man, (power largely unchecked and unregulated), is just as psychotic as a clown with a knife.

What makes the Joker great, is he's really just a device to show us what a farce, the fantasy of super heroes really are.

I've always felt Colossus was a real hero

#2160167 ChaosRed wrote:

A hero has to have flaws, and he has to actually face those flaws.

Bingo! This is why Boo Radley is 100 times the hero than a lot of comic book characters, who are really just extensions of boyish fantasies about power and ego.

*Cries* You made a To Kill a Mockingbird reference!

Why can't my students tie things together like that?

WAAAAAHHHH!

(And yes. Totally right.)

But facing the flaws can't be kinda a "there and done." Bit. That's boring and trite. Think about Iron Man, when he faced his alacholism, that went on for... what, four years?

And even now, sometimes Iron Man will quip, "God i want a scotch."

RL answer: A hero is someone who puts others before themselves.

Comic book hero answer: An ideal. Within comic books a hero is simply someone who can live up to an idealistic promise. The world around them is imperfect, but despite that they have a superhuman level of courage to do what it takes to fix it. Not just to fix it, but to fix it in an ideal way, a way that inspires trust and faith in the hero. Spiderman does what he does despite the negative press he gets, showing "Who I am is more important than who I am perceived to be". Superman holds himself up to a level of ideals that no mortal could ever hope to touch, showing "Yes, I have superpowers, but the only thing that allows me to do all this good in the world is my sense of morality and justice".

So playing a 'real hero' in CO involves playing someone who - publically at least - is more than just a person with powers, but someone who lives up to an ideal.

#2159909 Sir Shotgunbadger wrote:

#2159608 @redaqua wrote:

A hero understands that the ends NEVER justify the means.

My heroes:
Justice Alito
Justice Roberts
Justice Stevens
Justice Thomas
Justice Scalia
Justice Ginsberg
Former Justice O'Connor

Funny I always figured voting to give corporations human rights would be Lex Luthor move...

They voted to preserve the Constitution even when the end result sucks. That's heroic.

Of course, there's how Zoe Alayne defined it:

"A hero is someone who gets other people killed."

#2161324 @redaqua wrote:

Of course, there's how Zoe Alayne defined it:

"A hero is someone who gets other people killed."

Oh, so a hero is Leroy Jenkins.